Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

01/17/2024 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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03:16:40 PM Start
03:17:08 PM HB100
03:51:29 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 100 PAID FAMILY LEAVE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
             HB 100-PAID FAMILY LEAVE INSURANCE PLAN                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:17:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced that the  only order of business was HOUSE                                                               
BILL  NO. 100  "An Act  relating to  teacher and  public employee                                                               
leave."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:17:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JENNIE ARMSTRONG,  Alaska  State Legislature,  as                                                               
prime  sponsor   of  HB  100,  recapped   the  sponsor  statement                                                               
[included in  committee packet], which read  as follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     For  years,  the  State  of  Alaska  has  faced  a  net                                                                    
     outmigration  of  young families.  Simultaneously,  the                                                                    
     lack  of pensions  and competitive  benefits for  state                                                                    
     workers  has  meant  that the  State  of  Alaska  faces                                                                    
     crippling   vacancy  rates   in   our  public   sector,                                                                    
     exacerbated by the pandemic. The  result is that we pay                                                                    
     the same                                                                                                                   
     penalty  thrice  as  our workforce  ages,  outmigration                                                                    
     continues, and we are unable  to recruit and retain the                                                                    
     best and brightest in Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     A common  thread in retention woes  and outmigration is                                                                    
     that  Alaska  does  not   have  opportunity  for  young                                                                    
     families. The  costs associated  with raising  a family                                                                    
     are  prohibitively expensive  as  parents  seek to  re-                                                                    
     enter  the  workforce  but  struggle  to  find  support                                                                    
     beyond family  and friends in areas  such as childcare.                                                                    
     HB100  seeks to  provide one  solution that  has become                                                                    
     more popular  since the COVID-19 Pandemic:  paid family                                                                    
     leave.  Ten  other  states  are  now  offering  similar                                                                    
     benefits, and  Alaska's benefits under this  bill would                                                                    
     become the best in the nation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Under  the current  Alaska  Family  Medical Leave  Act,                                                                    
     employees can  take up to  18 weeks of unpaid  leave in                                                                    
     the  event of  childbirth, adoption,  or a  significant                                                                    
     health  event  related  to a  loved  one.  HB100  would                                                                    
     ensure that such leave is  paid at 100% of the worker's                                                                    
     salary. This bill would help  our public sector recruit                                                                    
     and retain employees, as well  as ensure that our state                                                                    
     could  be amongst  the best  in the  nation to  raise a                                                                    
     family.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:18:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  moved to  adopt the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute (CS)  to HB 100, Version  33-LS0480\B, Klein, 11/8/23,                                                               
as a working  document.  There being no objection,  Version B was                                                               
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:19:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:19 p.m. to 3:20 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:20:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VAL   ZANCHUCK,  President,   Graphicast,  Inc.,   began  invited                                                               
testimony and  relayed that Graphicast  has been involved  in the                                                               
paid family medical  leave program in New Hampshire  for the last                                                               
year.   He shared  that such a  program is  important, especially                                                               
for a  small business like his  own which has only  25 employees.                                                               
He explained that, in New  Hampshire, there are about 7,000 state                                                               
employees;  that is  used  as an  actuarial  basis for  insurance                                                               
companies to  bid on.  He  said his company applied  for six-week                                                               
family medical leave insurance, the  premium was $5,000 and would                                                               
be able  to be paid via  payroll deduction.  He  said the company                                                               
offering this insurance  was a "no-brainer," and  he detailed the                                                               
factors that  brought the insurance  premium down to $1,500.   He                                                               
explained  that the  leave plan  provides the  employee up  to 60                                                               
percent of the employee's wages.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:28:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TREVOR  STORRS,  President/CEO,  Alaska Children's  Trust,  began                                                               
invited testimony,  stating that  policies, like  the ones  in HB
100,  are  key  in  safeguarding   children.    He  stressed  the                                                               
importance  of early  childhood  development in  the first  three                                                               
years  of life,  and the  effect of  abuse and  neglect; over  40                                                               
percent of  children in  Alaska who  experience abuse  or neglect                                                               
are under the  age of four.  He stated  that shaken-baby syndrome                                                               
has been shown to be reduced  when paid family leave policies are                                                               
available,  which supports  new parents  in helping  to establish                                                               
healthy  patterns that  promote development  for the  child.   He                                                               
said that, while there may be  an up-front cost to employers, the                                                               
long-term  benefits include  reduced  long-term expenditures  and                                                               
more employee  time in the  workplace.  Further, it  supports the                                                               
administration's healthy family initiative, as  well as the "open                                                               
for business" initiative.  He urged members to approve HB 100.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:32:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMAR  BEN-YOSEF,   Executive  Director,  All   Alaska  Pediatric                                                               
Partnership, as invited testifier, shared  the mission of the All                                                               
Alaska Pediatric Partnership,  and that its board  approved a 12-                                                               
week, parental leave policy with eight  weeks of paid leave.  She                                                               
said an  organization of  the partnership's  size can  handle one                                                               
employee being  out for an  extended period, but  inevitably, the                                                               
burden falls to other staff  who are already operating at maximum                                                               
capacity; if more than one or two  employees need to be out for a                                                               
long period  of time, the  partnership could not afford  to offer                                                               
the  eight  weeks  of  paid  leave  as well  as  the  pay  for  a                                                               
contractor while they are out.   She stated that women should not                                                               
need to choose between work and motherhood.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:36:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER opened public testimony on HB 100.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:36:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURIE  WOLF, MNPL,  CFRE, President/CEO,  Foraker Group,  shared                                                               
that Foraker  Group is  a non-profit,  non-partisan organization.                                                               
She said  the group has  been researching the  state's non-profit                                                               
workforce.    She stated  that  workplace  policies that  support                                                               
broad paid family  leave options, like child and  elder care, are                                                               
a  key  factor in  providing  a  more welcoming,  equitable,  and                                                               
stable workforce.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:38:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMIE   MORGAN,   Relations   Regional   Lead,   American   Heart                                                               
Association,  stated that  the American  Heart Association  is in                                                               
support of  HB 100.   She explained  that chronic work  stress is                                                               
associated  with an  increased risk  for cardiovascular  disease;                                                               
time off can reduce the  likelihood of developing such a disease.                                                               
She said  that those  with higher  incomes, college  degrees, and                                                               
full-time  jobs are  more likely  to have  paid family  leave and                                                               
benefits, while those in  production, transportation, and service                                                               
sectors have  the lowest  rate of  access.   She stated  that all                                                               
workers should have access to paid family leave.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:41:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER, after  ascertaining no one else  wished to testify,                                                               
closed public testimony on HB 100.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:41:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT  asked about the  proposed four and  a half                                                               
months of leave.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ARMSTRONG  answered that current  statute provides                                                               
for 18 weeks of unpaid leave,  and that HB 100 changes statute to                                                               
18 weeks paid.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT  inquired if there  is data on  that amount                                                               
of leave.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ARMSTRONG explained that,  according to studies, a                                                               
year can  be beneficial.   She reiterated  that the  bill changes                                                               
statute from 18-weeks unpaid leave to 18-weeks paid leave.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:42:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX expressed  curiosity  as to  how many  extra                                                               
employees  were needed  in  order  to have  a  paid family  leave                                                               
program.  He asked Mr.  Zanchuk if private insurance carriers are                                                               
taking on the risk of this program in New Hampshire.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ZANCHUK confirmed the carriers are.   In response to a follow                                                               
up question, he  explained that the premium is $1,500  a year for                                                               
their entire  25 employee workforce;  employees do not pay  as he                                                               
himself is covering it.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:45:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ARMSTRONG  commented  on  how  businesses  handle                                                               
employees  in paid  family leave  status.   She advised  that the                                                               
states that have implemented the  plan are having a significantly                                                               
easier  time managing  long absences  with  an insurance  premium                                                               
because the insurance company handles  the wage replacement.  She                                                               
clarified  that  the  plan  is   voluntary  and  gives  employers                                                               
flexibility.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  asked whether  the  state  would cover  the                                                               
insurance risk.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ARMSTRONG  responded  that   the  state  will  be                                                               
covering the premium for state  employees, and for everyone else,                                                               
the employer will undergo a bidding process.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:47:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked how  much the insurance  would cost                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:48:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRISTAN  WALSH, Staff,  Representative  Jennie Armstrong,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature, answered that, in  [the original Version of HB
100],  there was  estimated cost  data  created.   In a  scenario                                                               
where the state  self insures and replaces every  dollar lost, he                                                               
said it  would cost $17 million  to $20 million for  all workers.                                                               
He explained  that in the  proposed CS  Version B, there  is just                                                               
the  $5 premium  to  the  worker.   In  response  to a  follow-up                                                               
regarding cost,  he said that  Version B  may cost $9  million to                                                               
$10 million.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:50:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS requested  data  for a  future meeting  on                                                               
duration of care and what it is in other countries.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[HB 100 was held over.]                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB100 Supporting Document-Letter of Support ACT 1.15.2024.pdf HL&C 1/17/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 100
ASEA Support for HB100 012224.pdf HL&C 1/17/2024 3:15:00 PM
HB 100